everyone, president obama, harry reid, everyone knows we need significant spending cuts. it's about time we act maturely and get together and try to find out what the spending cuts that we have to make can be made in the least onerous way for the american people. but spending cuts we need. we also need to raise more revenue. the fiscal cliff only raised $600 billion of revenue. we need to raise another $600 billion of revenue, and we've got to go about finding a way to do that as well. >> congressman, do you agree with that sentiment? i constantly in my role as a talk radio host hear from people who say the spending is out of control, and if this is spun as republicans standing up to all that spending and saying enough is enough, i think the wind could be at the gop's back. >> well, i don't know if the wind is at our back. first of all, governor, nice to see you again. >> hi, steve. >> i would tell you that spending is the problem, but where we missed the boat was by resisting on the tax side so long it became all about the taxes, that the spending got lost. as the govern